I’ll update as I get more info. ”“Lots of tidbits and rumors pouring in today. Too many lower tier schools in ACC that won’t have a home if that conference blows up. ACC would like to lock up the pacific coast with WA/OR/Cal/Stanford additions as it would be a huge infusion to ACCN. 159. Without the additions the show could very well be on the other foot right now. 7. ”Log in. Possibly during the NCAA tournament but it could be immediately following. ”Uconn is going to win the championship. Even an Oregon and a Washington together don’t increase the pie enough to bring up the per school payout. 2:52 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Power5 (or 4) will most likely have an autobid for their champ after playoffs expand. Of course it’s more financially attractive to do that with the “right” schools. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. ”Log in. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK will ask for an extension on the 4/15 deadline We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “The Buffs are an inevitability now. The PAC show of unity tweet…. Likes. 2. 6:21 PM · Jul 5, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. Quote Tweets. The Big East commissioner ran the conference like a basketball conference and treated football as a second class citizen, which is why Miami, VT, Boston College then WVU, Pitt and Syracuse left. 8 of them are Power5 schools located west of Texas. Likely not enough votes there to oust him yet but the cracks are showing. Retweets. 5% each. Grant of Rights required or will come with a clause for reductions assigning each school a percentage of what their worth is to the overall contract. ”On the eve of a significant B12 meeting got a few tidbits to offer up. 2. Taking the four will crush the P12. 11. 27. Rumors swirling today that there may be merger talks brewing between Pac12 and Big12 again. @MHver3. 23. ”“Alright! Got the go ahead to post it. 3. More interesting news is that OR and UW may not be a shoe-in for the B1G. That’s it. 22 Feb 2023 21:50:26Reposting this again at the request of my source with alternate phrasing: Colorado board will meet Monday to informally poll where votes would lie for leaving PAC. Hearing Colorado President and AD will be meeting with BY on campus in the near future. 11/15 schools would have to vote to disband, and that's exactly what would get gobbled up by the BIG10, SEC, and Big XII. 2. “Thank you to everyone for your words of support as my family deals with the loss of a very close loved one. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. “Also being told that earlier suspicions confirmed. 1:39 AM · Mar 18, 2023. "“@vikingburner @RockCat75 @CFBKnights Replace FSU with Miami and you are correct in that second sentence”“The 3 that want to jump to B12 are fed up with PAC leadership. The numbers are not where the presidents want them. Replying to. ”10:23 PM · Jul 22, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. Retweets. Feel like FSU is the most vocal because they are the most edge case in the ACC. 3:14 AM · Jul 24, 2021. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. $120m from Amazon/$100m espn. Apologize in advance for spelling or grammatical errors-glasses are off and I’m squinting in the dark. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. However UConn and Nova can make a case for being in that discussion. Pac12 additions in all sports are priority number 1. ”“@tsaundry13 @CFBKnights The tv deal plus accn money is about $31m per school. AZ too. Huge mistake. 19 Feb 2023 01:05:52We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. “@RChalk94 B12 100% takes Colorado if they want in. Someone mentioned the Saudis last night on here-might be a good. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Beating out even the 2004-2011 BIgEast. They are going to get the money they want without joining a conference. 1. Staples: The realignment battle for No. St Johns has trouble competing in the Big East and would be over their head in the Big 12. ”“@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. I’ve also heard that Pac12 may not have enough yes votes from members to add SDSU and SMU. MHver3. All stuff you heard here from me way before it hit the press. If acc gets it first then B12 may have no need for further expansion at this time outside of maybe the AZ schools (because there is value in those markets) MHver3 @MHver3 GK is currently trying to Frankenstein a mess of a deal with ESPN getting 1 FB game per week at about $5m per game and 3 BB games per week at about $1m per week. Who stands to benefit the most?“@USFBullTampaBuc They should’ve built these a decade ago. Hearing that GK is telling some of the PAC presidents that he may not have any new developments in the tv negotiations to present at next weeks meeting. By my count there are 3 "Yes" teams in the ACC and 3 "Maybe" teams. I’ve maintained that schools are still waiting on the deal to come in before making a decision. If B12 adds the right 6 PAC schools it can see its yearly payouts go above that $35m per school number the way the current deal is structured. bob trollsby. Life has been different since my brothers passing and priorities have changed a bit. I have nothing to gain-no monetization, no click bait links, no podcast. ”“Sorry I’ve been away so long. Amazon gets more first choice. Sign up“Aresco has a petition with the signatures of every G5 school president and G5 conference commissioner to deliver to the FTC complaining of anti-competitive practices and collusion of the selection committee. ”Log in. Evening tidbit: as of today’s meeting BY had with networks, any combination of 4 of the following schools (all sports) will be acceptable for ESPN and FOX to pay. @MHver3. ”MHver3 @MHver3. Replying to @MHver3. So that lines up with pretty much every other report coming out except for 1. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. 2:56 PM · Jul 4, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. ” We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ACC still has 2 blue bloods to B12’s 1. so mhver az asu utah and colorado do you think they are gonzo heading to join us in the big12 ? 1. ”“So ESPN takes more games than the current contractual obligation and uses them in the late window. Likes. 131. MHver3 @MHver3. Better than all 4 Four Corners schools. ”“@GibeiiBrewsong @USAdebtcrisis I say 6 are leaving but ORWA will try to keep them all together under the ridiculous uneven revenue sharing model espn is pushing but that will not sit with the 4 corners schools and they will bolt which will lead to ORWA bolting as well. UConn and Nova have proven you can win NCAA titles from the Big East. Big Papa RockChalkPac voted on SDSU and SMU again. 1. @MHver3. And CFP is going to probably double for everyone soon. OKST has been too one sided lately to be a rivalry-hopefully we can change that. @cwishn. Louis Oliverio. Also my Mountaineers are pretty terrible this year too lol. ”Gonna have envoys from the Rockies and the desert here at the B12 meetings in West-by-God Virginia. I’d prefer B12 waits for eventual ACC poaching and go and get our old BIgEast mates. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. We currently get about $4m for that same content. I do think the basement for some PAC schools is $28m net per school with at least 50% linear. As did VT. 21. As the Pac-12 deals with losing UCLA and USC to the Big Ten and the Big 12 explores a raid on the Pac-12, audience data can be instructive. GK still only has the ESPN/Amazon offer of $22m per school. Quote Tweets. #PACinShambles”“ACC hoped that by getting Stanford it would compel ND to join. PAC media: Hearing that no concrete numbers were presented and that the mystery partner that was coming back to the table was ION. and @JimUSFSig. Baylor is too. . 21 Feb 2023 23:32:48Feb 24. Log in. Eerily similar to communications the BIgEast put out just before it’s demise right before Pitt/Cuse/WVU/Rutgers/Louisville bolted. U conn not make this stuff up!New development to share: 2 PAC presidents plan to call for a vote of no confidence in GK at next weeks meeting. They know. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. ConversationWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. @MHver3. Staples: The realignment battle for No. ESPN has ACC and PAC over a barrel in different ways and isn’t likely to pay more. @KStateKyle. Huskies have come back to the table. 4. 7. 27 Feb 2023 17:36:19“So it’s possible AZ will not be having their board meeting tonight. Sign upThe source that gave me this info said if Apple does pull out of PAC negotiations then it puts PAC in a very bad position and may have to settle for far less money than even the smallest estimates that have leaked. 2:49 AM · Jul 19, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. AZ has not been completely vetted like the other two but since they are current P5 B12 would get Prorata. Sign up“Big rumor! Notre Dame has allegedly made the ACC an offer they can’t accept to join that conference in all sports. Possibly 3 east coast teams as well but those 3 are not as far along as the zags are. " Arizona is the wildcard that could keep UConn from getting an all sports invite. Sign up“So with those for and the state schools (assuming Utah and AZSU get B12 invites) you have a core of 6. That is all. It would seem inevitable that at some point u will say something… I mean, anything. ”“PAC and ACC leadership have had discussion about an alliance but only if it benefits by getting espn to reopen their tv contract. 🤷🏻♂️ I honestly feel sorry for most of the schools in the PAC. Nothing will happen until GK presents the deal to Pac12 presidents. This person isn’t a high level employee and I’ve verified they are who they say they are. 16 Jul 2023 00:27:09. I simply share and have a golden reputation of never giving up sources. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. ”“B10 has told Washington and Oregon that they have put expansion on hold indefinitely. Sign up“I’ve got a pretty big scoop to share that I’ve been sitting on for a few days. Apple offer could be months away-Apple moving slowly and it could be as late as July for negotiations. “RUMOR: Pac12 offer from ESPN: $220 million per year, no expansion. My source can confirm Colorado is. Likes. Without ORWA it will be closer to $32-$34 plus control of tier3”NBC/USA were also interested in some PAC content but they wanted it at a deep discount and are “worlds apart” from what GK was asking for. One feels they were sold a false bill of goods when they joined. 2. They're all signing a shorter GoR, it's not so much giving up as letting the landscape settle and use the time to build their. @MHver3 17h Amazon only wants the top game every week fb and bb from the PAC12 and is offering $100m a year for 2 years with an option for 2 more years and a review of the terms if the viewership is there. ”“The first show to drop was Notre Dame and NBC and the whole “shoulder programming” proposal. Clash of Champioms “Bowl” (more on that in next tweet””MHver3 @MHver3. Oregon, Washington, Stanford, and one other might be the best move. help. 2. Log in. Idea:…Pls tweet what the time will in 5The soon to be PAC defections are “on the precipice” of sealing the deal. B12 might be inviting 2 schools that have applied to further weaken PAC and maybe force WA/OR hand. No $$ yet from the new partner-very early in talksWe would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Show more replies. 3 — is made for TV. MHver3 @MHver3 Hearing from B12 contacts in communication with Pac12 contacts that AZ and Colorado have NOT committed to signing a GOR and will not agree to sign one without a complete deal in front of them that is equitable and on par with B12/ACC. Sign up“Called my source. Stanford/Cal 13. Not sure what’s going on there yet-just hearing preliminary info-but hearing it from multiple sources. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. @MHver3. ”“@kiwicanuck76 I’m told it’s because the conference has 4 states and 8 schools on their no travel list. 11. ”@MHver3 · May 25. Retweets. Redirecting to /MHver3/status/1516166017319411713 Not sure if Apple Inc is well known in Appalachia but spoiler alert it’s not a fruit company 1:52 AM · Jul 26, 2022 · Twitter for iPhone. If Ohio State and Mich or Penn St then Big10 schools would try to bounce for $50mil raise, to new conference. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. “Espn is telling B12 through back channels that they would like to broker a deal to convert LHN into a Big12 network and secure all of B12 tier 3 rights for 7 years. Gonzaga is in for basketball. Might Washington and Oregon be making the same offer? 🍎 😂 😂 😂. Sign upFinal tidbit of the night: a source in WVU AD thinks the March 7th meeting will be to issue invites to at least 2 BB only schools and to possibly accept and approve applications for 2 all sports members. I don’t think anyone is getting in with a negotiated out clause. ”That scenario was floated by Fox. 2. This is the “Tier1” package. Top to bottom though this new B12 would be the best conference ever assembled. WVU also saw success going from Independent to BIgEast. ” Big12 financial consultants believe the B12 + the Pac6 would be valued at around $500-$600million per year on the open market. Sign upSee new Tweets. Of course “official sources” are going to downplay the significance of any talks schools have had Witt other conferences BY has allegedly been engaged all evening with 1 particular school to the west. ” “@BroncoJ415 @MrSamStone3 There’s a lot of things on the table. Sign up“@ChiefsInsider There’s a legitimate academic snobbery by the presidents and they are trying their damndest to go down with the ship. OMG I was wrong. ”“Got some clarification on those Pac12 bylaws from my regular B12 source: leaving teams only forfeit revenues if they leave prior to August 2024. That was a guarantee. “Boise State making their case for inclusion into the B12. Look for a thread soon. Oils be basketball/Olympic only additions before that happens though. ”“@DeathrowDerham They want first pick of the top game weekly, best out of conference games not beholden to the other schools tv contract, conference championship game football, and first choice basketball. Hearing ESPN is taking (or already has taken) their $250m total package offer to the Pac12 off the table. @CFBKnights. Conversation“Very risky for PAC to walk from what espn was offering but desperate times…”“@bigg_t08 I don’t want to predict anything about what the final offer will be because so much can change. They want no part of unequal revenue sharing. I’m being told there will be a Big12 meeting that evening that could potentially have huge ramifications for the Big12 and the college sports landscape in general. 6. But simply never happens. ”“@HazzardCoEng Would be a fun league but splitting that tv pie 24 ways would have us in the same boat as pac12. Replying to @Brewenor. @MHver3. @MHver3. MHver3🍎 😂 😂 😂. com. If you start to hear reports of a PAC media offer for $25-28m per school trickle out keep a couple of things in mind: 14 Mar 2023 14:40:40 @MHver3 Don’t underestimate a possible Pac12 invite for Airforce either. “Utah hasn’t withdrawn their application but they do seem less urgent and seem to be teetering. 26. “Also as part of this deal ESPN would pay Oregon and Washington an additional $15 million per year for the trade off of playing 2 ACC teams per year. ”“@JamieExorcistof You are correct. @MHver3. And there are ongoing discussions on how that money could be generated through selling the extra inventory. Also a high ranking member of. Log in. Jul 6, 2022. 4 PAC schools plus Kliavkoff pushed for the conference to take the ESPN money and the other 6 schools refused. ”“@mikednfl Absolutely. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. Thanks for the heads up from those of you who wrote me. It’s not the B12s fault that we see an opportunity to strengthen ourselves now. ”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. I’d be thrilled if Colorado and Arizona came in, regardless of whether any others did. Likes. 2. Jul 12. Meanwhile ND maneuvered their way to a sweetheart deal with ACC and was able to leave the faltering BIgEast. And they all already know the current numbers. Most recent figure I’ve heard for Pac12 is just south of $20m per year per school after broadcasting expenses are covered in house. “Morning tidbits: Fox is done with Pac12 as an entity and has no plans to even bid on a new tv contract. Likes. 3 — is made for TV. It was $24. This helps justify the pro-rata increase for 8 teams. If the ND/Big 12/NBC rumors have any truth to them, I imagine the Big 12 became even more attractive for those schools. Log in. “@DwayneF77 I’ll say it one more time. 19. “I’m hearing several Pac12(-2)schools are in complete pandemonium tonight. If 4 teams get taken from the ACC by the Power 2, there is a good chance FSU is not one of them. Transfer ownership of Pac12 networks to espn. We make more than that currently for all of tier3. ”“@Lake_Cowboy @KDVanderpool We had a good one with TX. 10:33 PM · Sep 7, 2021 · Twitter for iPhone. Then there’s also the chance that the NY6 bowls all become absorbed into the expanded playoffs as round 1 of a 12 team playoff. Retweets. MHver3 @MHver3 ACC source telling me this morning that the school they work for has exhaustively ran the numbers and when compared to the windfall of SEC or B1G tv money the financial risk is outweighed by the future reward. Feb 21. 6. #Pac12DoomsdayClock”Sign up. Likes. Boise State is making a lot of noise wanting B12 to reopen their application. I have heard that if WA and OR stay that that could possibly keep Stanford and Cal in the fold-I’ve also heard Stanford is very close to going Indy. Likes. Things are getting crazy!”“And the endgame is probably 16 teams. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Shouldn’t be an issue since these are not revenue sports. Sign up“60 seconds to PACmidnight. Houston and BYU applications are in. @MHver3 This is the case with any conference not named SEC. The ESPN offer wasn’t $25m per school. one president is telling B12 contacts that there is a feeling GK. Current Pac10 members are looking at about $200-$250m per year on the open market. Now it’s been twice verified. And GK. ”““We haven't decided if we're going shopping there yet,"-Kliavkoff, spewing venomously at the conference that just recently decided a merger with his conference wasn’t financially attractive. Current B12 expansion landscape: Colorado and UConn have been completely vetted by the conference and networks and B12 will receive pro-rata for both. Their fans are this nasty-imagine how bad it is between the schools right now. That’s it. “And hearing that Washington State, Oregon State, and Cal have reached out to the Mountain West to talk about a landing spot. 2. And several mid tier schools that would be shaky getting a new home as well”“I’m also hearing a lot of people describing espns offer to PAC as a lowball offer. I’ve shared that here last summer. 17. ”“Just heard that Yormark meeting with Knight was basically Knight pleading to Yormark to keep the merger talks going and make it happen. What I’m hearing on PAC media deal (or lack thereof) from a B12 source based on B12 talks with a PAC school. Also-though much quieter-there will be some zig-Zagging happening this week as well I’m my home state. There’s so much information to pour through and so many moving pieces that B12 leadership alone can’t keep up. I was responding to a person that shared an article that AZ was meeting with B12 on Tuesday. ACC adding west coast schools could severely affect B12 expansion plan because its really just about that late window. Likes. The contact that shared this with my source is in a PAC school AD and their school was not satisfied with any of the update-said that the CEOs specifically told GK not to do a presser. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. MHver3 @MHver3. I actually don’t want more western schools. Yearly scheduling of 1 ACC team per school. Also the FB CCG. If it takes their exit for Cal, Stan, Utah,. But it was requested by the source who shared the info with me. That’s it. ”Also hearing TCU and Texas Tech plan on pulling out of games scheduled with Oregon and Stanford if Pac12 goes all streaming out of visibility concerns for the pac owned games. 1. MHver3. Air Force and Colorado State have also been in contact with Kliavkoff. AZ has and AZSU problem. MHver3 @MHver3. @MHver3 FWIW my sources are telling me that FOX is NOT actively negotiating with PAC. 21. @MHver3. ”Some drips of info hitting the bucket. Ed. Hence why Texas and OU are staying until 2025. ”“I don’t normally get a lot of MWC rumors but I did get a good one this morning that the MWC is fully expecting the PAC to be either dissolved or weakened severely enough that they fully expect ASU, WSU, OSU and maybe even Utah to be partners in the very near future. MHver3. “As I type this the Arizona schools are discussing exit strategy and AZ is making their case for autonomy to decide conference affiliation (in case they are the only one that gets an invite). Ugh. Found. ”ACC again proposed an aggressive expansion to 20 teams and has been talking with OR/WA/Stanford/and Cal. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. That’s it. 19. 2. “I think what we are seeing is that the deep fractures in the PAC are leading to schools feeling out all options trying to formulate back up plans. “So I was told the proposed breakdown for unequal revenue sharing for PAC. . “Looks like we have a new ESPN offer for PAC12. ACC has special deal with espn to add those 4 at prorata even though it wasn’t built into the contract. Well a big aspect of this programming and a key part of ND working close with B12 is throwing a lifeline to Stanford. ”“@blakeblahut @AveCope No. CBS and NBC expected to be huge players for the next B12 contract in addition to ESPN and Fox”We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. “@kenneyclone @JBWinstonTX No. ”The apple deal would see apple absorb the production costs of all the games and give them the option to sub lease games to other networks and split additional revenues with the conference. @MHver3. MHver3 @MHver3. Temporarily making my account public just to help get my info out for whomever may want to read. There’s no reason to add anyone else to dilute the tv money just to have an even number. 02 Jun 2023 22:14:16. The other $5m is from a variety of different T3 revenue streams. Would need to probably add 6. Sign up“Tonight’s Big12 vote isn’t to invite schools. Quote Tweets. This will be my last tweet for a bit. But not the question asked. ”“If Stanford would come they wouldn’t want to be the only CA school but Cal is not a good fit for B12 at all in so many ways. The BIG12 would be stupid to go. ”See new Tweets. “CU and AZ have been given “all the time they need to make a decision” by BY as B12 is in no hurry to add. Finger pointing, yelling amongst leadership, and very pissed at ESPN for the hit piece on their conference while they are supposed to be negotiating in good faith. 1. 31 May 2023 13:12:44. 7h. I’ve got news but can’t leak it yet. 11:57 PM · Apr 17, 2023 @MHver3 Question for conversation: This Century-Has there been any case where after switching from one BCS/P5 league to another that a school has seen better success on the field? Miami, VT, Neb, Mizzou, Colorado, WVU, Louisville, have all fallen off the map since their moves. ”@MHver3 I don't know what the rumors are you're talking about, but it's pretty simple. Log in. ·. ”BY possibly has a 3rd media partner on board if Fox is a no go for adding $ for new additions. ”“I want to hear from Oregon fans.